by watwut 5 hours ago

In his generation, only cheating cyclists could stay in teams. He was the one who created the situation, but in fact, cyclists had two choices - stop being cyclist or cheat.

harry8 2 hours ago | [-1 more]

You yourself are on drugs if you think Lance Armstrong "created the situation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France#D...

Note the quantity that actually got caught and with enough evidence. Lance won it 6 times without getting caught.

Looking at it systematically there's no way all of the top finishers were not taking drugs (how else could they compete with the world's best who were? The advantage isn't small.) And it had clearly been going on for many years before Armstrong entered the event for the first time.

I really don't care for Armstrong's yellow banded hypocrisy but blaming him for the "cheat or don't bother competing" reality lets rather a lot of people off the hook with a convenient scapegoat.

But I'm sure that's all in the past and it's not like that now. Just as was said when Armstrong won 6 times while correctly stating he was the most tested athlete on the planet.

Wrapping it up and tying all that to Armstrong, as has been done, stinks. He was clearly a bit player in that extensive fraud. Six titles with no meaningful positive drug test as the most tested athlete on the planet.

harry8 2 hours ago | [-0 more]