by jamwise 6 hours ago

If I wasn't certain Apple will do their best to patch every avenue to this working in the future it might be motivation to buy AirPods.

jitl 4 hours ago | [-4 more]

Why would they try to make the AirPods a worse purchase? Apple is happy to let you run whatever operating system on your Mac -- they aren't actively hostile there, but they don't help the community either.

Still, I would recommend the Sony WF-1000XM6 if you're not an Apple computer or phone user already. The UX is reportedly worse and a bit buggy, but the sound should be better.

Rohansi 31 minutes ago | [-0 more]

> Apple is happy to let you run whatever operating system on your Mac -- they aren't actively hostile there

Weird to praise Apple for the one line of devices they let you install your own operating system on and ignore that every other device doesn't.

jabwd 2 hours ago | [-1 more]

You can configure them to pause them when you take them out of your ear, except when it is not an Apple device. They will refuse to do so, even though they clearly detect the event since you can no longer use the stem as a pause button when you do so.

Clearly they make it worse just because you didn't get an Apple device, so yeah idk what you're smoking but give me some.

jitl 38 minutes ago | [-0 more]

yeah the fact that many things start working if you change the host ID to apple device is very sus. i retract.

microgpt 3 hours ago | [-0 more]

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Aurornis 6 hours ago | [-2 more]

The AirPods already work outside of the Apple ecosystem. This is just someone building out interfaces for their extra features that are already integrated into Apple operating systems.

jamwise 6 hours ago | [-1 more]

Yeah I understand. But there are plenty of good headphones that work with Android and include most of the features. That's kind of the point of Librepods right? To bring AirPods up to par for non-Apple devices and make them a viable option for Android and/or non-Mac users. So "this working" means those features.

bigiain 3 hours ago | [-0 more]

Still a useful project for those of us with a foot in both the iOS and Android camps. (And who use Linux as well as macOS)

drnick1 5 hours ago | [-1 more]

Since the AirPods are an offline device, if you buy a pair now they should work indefinitely. But perhaps it would be better to reward manufacturers that don't make you jump through such hoops to use the hardware that you bought.

throwaway152321 3 hours ago | [-0 more]

Sure. But on the other hand it makes sense to reward manufactures that make good hardware. And AirPods are very good hardware for me so I'm perfectly ok rewarding them for it.

nunez 5 hours ago | [-0 more]

AirPods update while charging in their case and paired with an xOS device. You'll need to make sure that they never connect with an Apple product to "version pin" them.

giancarlostoro 6 hours ago | [-3 more]

I would be surprised if they could. Linux on Macs is still a thing. In fact, Linux on Mac is why I keep all the Macs we have in the house from the mid to late 2000s because they still turn on and work, if I choose to install Linux on any of them they are still usable.

matheusmoreira 6 hours ago | [-0 more]

> I would be surprised if they could.

They can. Require a valid signature from the mac's secure cryptoprocessor in order to interoperate. There's nothing we can do.

Remember when we used to use cryptography to protect ourselves from government and corporation espionage? Good times. Now cryptography is used by governments and corporations to protect themselves from us.

One day we'll need such hardware attestations to even get an internet connection.

code_duck 6 hours ago | [-1 more]

Linux on older Macs, currently. I'd love to install Linux on my M5 (or even ARM Windows 11) but it's not possible due to Apple's lack of documentation and some other issues.

retired 5 hours ago | [-0 more]
ghostly_s 5 hours ago | [-1 more]

I wouldn't. Most uncomfortable earbuds in the market at any price.

Grombobulous 5 hours ago | [-0 more]

I realize your statement is subjective, but AirPods are made up of variants with plastic buds and variants that come with literally 5 sizes of squishy tips in the box.

So you have a total of 6 different fits to choose from. Plus the fact that there are surely dozens of third party tip options available for the Pro models.

The idea that anything with that many fit options can be considered the most uncomfortable earbuds on the market is not really possible in concept. That idea is as meaningless as saying that a size 9 Converse All Star is the most uncomfortable shoe on the market.

We are many generations removed from the original one size fits all product which was much different.

slashdave 3 hours ago | [-0 more]

I am pretty sure Apple doesn't care

duped 2 hours ago | [-0 more]

Basically all the annoying shit I have to handle with my AirPods is made up by how good of a product they are. I have nice headphones, speakers, studio and other microphones, etc for a bunch of use cases. AirPods are my workhorse. I haven't found anything as comfortable with as good a battery life and as good fidelity and as good price. The active noise cancelling is also very good.

And I'm an apple hater, in general.