by bigstrat2003 6 hours ago

Yep. You always have a choice. If cheating is wrong, it does not become acceptable just because everyone else is doing it.

gedy 5 hours ago | [-8 more]

Agreed, but it feels like a Pyrrhic victory to not cheat, then get lower scores than the cheaters.

dgellow 5 hours ago | [-7 more]

Are those exams a contest? Like, they will only take the best N percentiles? Because if not, you’re competing only against yourself and should ignore others’ grades

ewild 4 hours ago | [-2 more]

It's an incredibly privileged Pov to say it isn't a contest. These kids entire futures are impacted by these scores.

wrs 3 hours ago | [-0 more]

Well, not once the scores become meaningless because everyone assumes they cheated.

ndriscoll 3 hours ago | [-0 more]

Ivy League kids tend to not be facing some extreme economic precarity. In fact a decent number of them likely have enough family wealth to not need to work a day in their lives. The others are unlikely to face too much trouble over a few Bs at Brown.

anigbrowl an hour ago | [-0 more]

Yes they are, that's what 'graded on a curve' means. It's common in the US to give students a percentile or Z-score or T-score rather than the raw score for the examination. This was a source of massive frustration to me when I first encountered because I had no way of self-reviewing my exam performance to guess which questions I might have gotten wrong.

none2585 4 hours ago | [-0 more]

I did not go to an Ivy League but many of my classes at an alright school were graded on a curve and so C was average, B/D was one standard deviation above/below, and A/F was two.

em-bee 5 hours ago | [-0 more]

if they are graded on a curve then they are competing against each other.

1270018080 4 hours ago | [-0 more]

> Are those exams a contest?

Yes