by I-M-S 17 hours ago

“The goal is to become HBO faster than HBO can become us.” - Ted Sarandos in 2013

Seems Netflix won that race.

paxys 16 hours ago | [-7 more]

Thing is that Netflix didn't really succeed at that goal. HBO was and still is the gold standard for premium cable content. Netflix instead decided to go for the bottom 70% of the market, and the quality of their shows reflects that.

In fact the very reason for this purchase is that they desperately need help on the creative side.

Netflix is what it is today because all the studios trying to compete with their tech was an even bigger disaster than Netflix competing on content.

triceratops 15 hours ago | [-5 more]

I don't think the Netflix vs HBO comparison is fair.

HBO was always one channel in a home. They produced a limited amount of high-quality content. You watch it a few times a week and network TV reality shows or whatever other trash the rest of the week.

Netflix wanted/wants to be the only channel in cord-cutting and cord-never homes. When that's your goal you have to produce mostly crap and some good stuff.

hulitu 15 hours ago | [-4 more]

> and some good stuff

which is mostly inexistent on Netflix

triceratops 15 hours ago | [-3 more]

That's a matter of opinion. Other people all over this thread have shared what they think are good Netflix shows and movies.

Fricken 11 hours ago | [-2 more]

It's the opinion of Netflix execs, who have expressed envy over how much money HBO is still making off of decades old IP. Not a lot of Netflix content has legs like that, but I suppose that's about to change with the WB acquisition.

triceratops 11 hours ago | [-1 more]

> how much money HBO is still making off of decades old IP

I'd say Disney is the uncontested king of making money off old work. If HBO was that good they wouldn't have been scooped up so easily.

Netflix execs may be envious of the enduring cultural cachet of shows like The Sopranos or The Wire. That's completely different from making real money.

xp84 9 hours ago | [-0 more]

I'm not sure Netflix execs spend much time worrying about cultural cachet like that. They care about popularity and virality but I think they'd be 100% contented to make 100 reality shows like the one I affectionately dubbed "Sluts Island" that each make them $10 million than make one Sopranos-type show that makes them $500 million and 57 Emmys.

jimbokun 13 hours ago | [-0 more]

I'm not sure how you quantify "premium cable content" but Netflix has certainly made great strides in that market.

bee_rider 16 hours ago | [-3 more]

Why would anyone want to be old HBO? Writing good scripts is hard and not rewarded.

nielsbot 14 hours ago | [-2 more]

The rewards aren’t necessarily monetary.

xp84 9 hours ago | [-1 more]

I'd wager that those non-monetary rewards are not what drive any decisions in the Netflix C-suite.

nielsbot 6 hours ago | [-0 more]

fair. i guess i was thinking more about the creative types.

raverbashing 17 hours ago | [-4 more]

After that complete fumble of HBO becoming "Max" they were at their last legs

justin66 16 hours ago | [-3 more]

The "Max" fiasco was pretty much the strangest branding mistake ever. Not just an obvious mistake but it was honestly kind of a mystery that anyone would even be tempted to do that.

tempoponet 15 hours ago | [-1 more]

Remember when Netflix almost split its brand with "Quickster"? It was the dying DVD by mail service, but the whole debacle did nothing but confuse people.

xp84 9 hours ago | [-0 more]

True, although Netflix knew the DVD business had no permanent future anyway, so they really didn't care. If they'd picked a less silly name like "DVDflix" or something, it wouldn't have become a viral story, but either way it wouldn't have changed NFLX's fortunes.

NoMoreNicksLeft 16 hours ago | [-0 more]

"HBO or Cinemax... um, I wonder which name I should keep."

theandrewbailey 16 hours ago | [-0 more]

As I was reading the announcement, that quote popped into my head. I came here to say exactly that.